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White Waters...finally out!

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kolinzo

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GBAM!!!

Moreover, my answer is in the statement following the one Kolinzo highlighted.
Izu is not the biggest director in Nollywood. Besides, Izu can only compare his works with those in the industry he's working in. Indian movie directors cannot jump and start to compare their works with American directors. They can only compare their works within their industry. Therefore, I fail to see what is wrong in comparing Izu's works with other directors in Nollywood to measure his ability to be the best -even if all the directors are garbage it is still a fair comparison.
 

NTB

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In the voice of BigMomma worrahell is going on here. TM, na here you de, de watch wrestling match between Takestyle and the apple of his eyes Angela81. Man pickin is in love and instead of declaring it he de here de do touch me, i touch you.
 

TheForce

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Izu is not the biggest director in Nollywood. Besides, Izu can only compare his works with those in the industry he's working in. Indian movie directors cannot jump and start to compare their works with American directors. They can only compare their works within their industry. Therefore, I fail to see what is wrong in comparing Izu's works with other directors in Nollywood to measure his ability to be the best -even if all the directors are garbage it is still a fair comparison.
Izu may not be the "biggest" director in Nollywood. (Though I don't know what that means) But I still rank him as one of the best directors, that is why he is subjected to this form of critique. If white waters was directed by other directors, I would have commended them for increased efforts, except of course those that are within Izu's league, like Tunde Kelani and recently Daniel Ademonikan who is just coming up.
I have seen Izu done a better job on a more complicated and far more underfunded movie, I simply expected him to be better here.
 

Thickmadam

OHHHHHH YEAHHHHHHHH!!
In the voice of BigMomma worrahell is going on here. TM, na here you de, de watch wrestling match between Takestyle and the apple of his eyes Angela81. Man pickin is in love and instead of declaring it he de here de do touch me, i touch you.
do you blame me?
people don beg them to stop and if dem no wan stop i shall enjoy the heated debate. things have been boring around here lately, so, liven it up angie and ts, tenk u feri mush.

NTB, remove modurator hat here o...hmmmmmm, hmmmmmm...ok.
 

wendydoks

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What!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! madr: Bloody!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who wants to do that mess?

How would he run???? With his tummy???? Nollywood!!!!!!!!!! :frown2



Yes Stephanie is the most fit but she'd be looking more in control of Oc Ukeje. Rita in her small size seemed like a big sis speak more of Stephanie. No doubt she is the best bold face for the role but not with Oc as playing Melvin. Maybe Majid Micheal :action-sm. I trust u cant cast Steph playing Oc's lover with such story. If Steph has to play Oc's lover then the storyline must be about a woman riding on her man :excite
i cannot believe u wud cast Majid over OC in whitewaters? OMG, that is just it.


and who in their right miind wud cast emeka ike to play jay jay?:ban: i would prolly say Jim iyke because they have similar smile and the IDK attitude with a smile he would give when he misses a goal. They also have similar built, features and possibly height. or a new actor that will nail the performance just like they used OC.
 

wendydoks

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Why are you interested in what I think about Across the Niger when you are so convinced that I am so engorged with envy? i asked for a favor. and i still maintain dat offer. like i said, i am curious to know wat u have 2 say abt that

Look... I voiced MY opinion of the movie, which I felt (and still feel) was pretty bloodless, emotionally inert and ultimately mediocre. You are quite welcome to disagree with my opinion but if that is the case, I think a more productive way to go about it would be to counter my points with valid observations from the movie (as I did) rather than attacking me personally (and ineffectually).

It's not enough to say "O.C. Ukeje gave a powerful performance"... Point me to a particular scene or sequence that illustrates this. oh YESS i will. i have watched t hat movie 12X so i can remember ever scene vivdly. now, flashback to the scene where melvin 1st met Nola. n otice he did not utter ONE word in that scene. but his expressions ALONE told a story. u saw a loner who is unable to express himself. a loner who doesnt even know where or how to begin to voice. i doubt he knew wat his voice wud sound like. you also saw how shy he was when his pix were taken. he nailed that in particular. can u please think of a nollywood actor that will nail his scenes with his fish? come on. Did u know, that i showed this movie to americans in an event (college event) and 31 people showed up to watch it and finished the whole movie with great reviews? i want to flash back to when he ran the relay. the uunspoken dialogue betwn melvin and the coach when he dropped the bar was priceless!!! u felt the disappointment of both. let me also flshback to when he view the white waters with nola. or is it his silly dance moves b4 his mother and village doctor. sorry, i love that. NOW, i want to take u back to two scenes, 1st when he lost nola to banji. u remember when he was practicing with the dwarf and havin to deal with t he site of nola and banji? ok.....lets get to the last scene. b4 the 2nd gun went off. lovely.



SHOW me how Rita Dominic was correctly cast as a track athlete. SHOW me how Melvin's character and psychology were developed in any meaningful or consistent fashion. as for psychology, scroll up, i did already...now, yes ritaldoesnt look like a runnr, i am sure Izu ojukwu knew dat. but he had to choose act over physical appearance. if he did it the other way round, it wud have been a mess. besides, he made sure it wasnt too obvious. it was but once did she try to "jump" but fell which blended in with the script. as far as development, al he needed was an exposure. this is someone who knew noone but his mother and the doctor. until nola came in, he finally finds someone other than his mother to express his felings with. and love indeed can bring out the hidden in u. if u doubt me, loook @ Jennifer lopez during her courtship with ben affleck and the videos she released during that relationship. just a reference. and his character was consistant @least he didnt get smart all of a sudden. while he still had his slow spell, the coach helped him through by exercsing patience of which neither his stepfather nor his own mother gave him. for once, someone believed in him! that is enough to motivate anyone into improving.

SHOW me something... Don't just TELL me. That's one of the basic rules of movie-making (and movie critique).

Until then, you're wasting my time and yours with this "you are jealous" talk... What is this, the Maury Povich Show? I'm sorry that the fact that I don't like the movie you love hurts your feelings so badly, but just wipe the sand out of your vagina and try to live with it.

it doesnt hurt me. i just see alot of hateration in ya comments. they are no where near constructive criticsm. sorry.

For the record, if you look through the discussion, you'll find where I said that Joke Silva's performance was inappropriately theatrical and sophisticated for the material. She seemed to be existing in a different reality from the rest of the characters.

EDIT: My bad... It was actually in another thread:



(That's another failure on the part of the director, by the way.)
^^sure. that one i agree. i wud like to have u suggest 3 other actors better fitted for her role.



i appologize for any errors
lol
 

wendydoks

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Something went wrong at the honeymoon hotel? Lol

Haba Angela, you of all people, being a production person should see the truth in what Takestyle had enumerated in regards to white water. He'd been spot on. You would probably had shared the same view if those flaws were pointed out by somebody else aside TS.
White water was an ok movie, but it wasn't all that, as some would want to make it. I still respect Izu Ojukwu, but it seems that the existence of loads of inefficient directors in Nollywood is forcing the few good ones to see their works as excellent. Because they are comparing their works with movies that should be trashed in the first place.
i am sure that makes u sleep better @ nite.
 

wendydoks

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let me make it easier for you.

I will rather, listen to someone who has been there. there is a saying that when the maidens returning from the river meet you half way and tell you the crocodile just had a baby, believe it.

Yes, I really appreciate the time I get to spend with people with expertise. it saves me the time. I don't go about living in my head thinking I know when I don't. whether they remember me or not is inconsequential, the most important thing is, I have picked their brain to add to mine.

it is not a sad way to live, in fact, as solomon stated, it is the way of the wise. A wise man takes advice, a follish one thinks he knows.

you think you know and think that your hypothesis are facts or should be accepted as law, when you cannot even substantiate your very existence with any thing substiantial.

Izu may have flaws in his movie, I stated the flaws I saw, but then, he has made a movie, he has tried, he has done better than the norm. yes, he may be a the "one eyed leader" but HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! at least he is not blind!!! he has one eye!!!
with a miracle, he will gain sight in his other eye.

you on the other hand, where are you? do you have sight in both eyes or do you merely live out of your head? I know blind people talk too much. they talk about what they think they see. at least a one eyed man can actually see something, at least Iju has proof and experience and fact.

the fact that you even think and confidently write that one must telephone a studio to get clearance to use a title simply exposed you. I told this as a joke and we all had a good laugh. I mean, are you kidding me? stop being know all and kill joy and appreciate someone who is trying!
My own be say, let us congratulate someone who is at least trying to break away from the multitude.
I rest my case.
very well said!music-sm:
 

NTB

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and who in their right miind wud cast emeka ike to play jay jay?:ban: i would prolly say Jim iyke because they have similar smile and the IDK attitude with a smile he would give when he misses a goal. They also have similar built, features and possibly height. or a new actor that will nail the performance just like they used OC.
You mean JJ on Good Times :roll I just had to throw that in here :teu26:
 

NTB

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do you blame me?
people don beg them to stop and if dem no wan stop i shall enjoy the heated debate. things have been boring around here lately, so, liven it up angie and ts, tenk u feri mush.

NTB, remove modurator hat here o...hmmmmmm, hmmmmmm...ok.

Area Mama na you biko
 

wendydoks

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Izu is not the biggest director in Nollywood. Besides, Izu can only compare his works with those in the industry he's working in. Indian movie directors cannot jump and start to compare their works with American directors. They can only compare their works within their industry. Therefore, I fail to see what is wrong in comparing Izu's works with other directors in Nollywood to measure his ability to be the best -even if all the directors are garbage it is still a fair comparison.
Do we have another Nollywood other than the one he is working in? or am i m issing something here?:confused:

Today, Izu Ojukwu is the #1 Nollywood director. Listen, action speaks loouder than words and his movies speaks volumes. You can not help but notice his outstanding works.

Who will tell the President prt 2 he was called to direct a part of the movie which is the action part. it wasnt until the prt 2 did the movie actually pick up. it was dragged obviously and honestly, the movie was dry until prt 2which just made it a little bearable. Now, the action bit isnt exactly great but he made an effor. i wud give him a C-

Across The Niger he really brought it home in that movie. i loved the whole war scenes except the ending( it has alot of flaws). But thats another discussion. i will give that a B chiefly because no other director has ever pulled it off or come close to.

Sitanda he did something very interesting in this movie where the environment @ the slavery scenes has a smokey effect. everything about that whole slavery scenes are new. very different. My favorite scene is the dance scene. lovely. I give it a B- . i would have loved to see a different selection of actors other than steph okereke and heer husband in the movie. Justis esiri was lovely in that movie btw.

Distance between here he touches on a subject hardly touched in Nollywood even with all the rape and child ABUSE MOVIES PRODUCED or directed. the movie ofcos has its own flaws. My major flaw with it is the sound. I felt seom of the sounds were either muffled and distorted or isnt supposse to be heard @ all. the ending was poor. very weak. so i give it a B-

White waters one major thing about this movie is the fact that it is different from Nollywood usuals. This is an athletic movie. whenever have you heard such a thing in nollywood? an athletic movie? its unbelieavble. it only proves that some directors really DO want to make a difference in Nollywood. i give him a B+ for standing out and directiing an amazing piece.


Cindy's note i am patiently waitin to see this movie.

these are his movies i have been able to watch. I know he has d one other works but i have yet to watch them or even come across them. example pf one of those movies is La Viva

Izu Ojukwu has only just begun.:653:
 

sky_flies

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i cannot believe u wud cast Majid over OC in whitewaters? OMG, that is just it.


and who in their right miind wud cast emeka ike to play jay jay?:ban: i would prolly say Jim iyke because they have similar smile and the IDK attitude with a smile he would give when he misses a goal. They also have similar built, features and possibly height. or a new actor that will nail the performance just like they used OC.
Replacing Stephanie for Rita's character in White waters, I would also recast the male for a macho guy. Maybe Majid was a wrong choice but you know I didn't do the casting of White waters, perhaps if I were employed to be the casting director would have thought out two greater pair. For me, if Rita/Stephanie play Nola, OC wouldn't play Melvin! Simple!!

OC and Stephanie in the romantics (unless script includes their differences as a stumbling blocks in the relationship) is a fatal regrettable casting error, so was OC and Rita in White waters as thier age difference was streaming and made them have no connections.

Izu just let that slip by, I'm yet to discover why.

Jim what!!?? That guy is not a serious actor to me. Too stereotype that I can't imagine him fitting into so many roles. But casting upon physical resemblance Jim would justify a Jay Jay Okocha's project. He is also athletically fit but needs to get serious before I would believe his capable of becoming the character than letting the character become him.

Do we have another Nollywood other than the one he is working in? or am i m issing something here?:confused:

Today, Izu Ojukwu is the #1 Nollywood director. Listen, action speaks loouder than words and his movies speaks volumes. You can not help but notice his outstanding works.

Who will tell the President prt 2 he was called to direct a part of the movie which is the action part. it wasnt until the prt 2 did the movie actually pick up. it was dragged obviously and honestly, the movie was dry until prt 2which just made it a little bearable. Now, the action bit isnt exactly great but he made an effor. i wud give him a C-

Across The Niger he really brought it home in that movie. i loved the whole war scenes except the ending( it has alot of flaws). But thats another discussion. i will give that a B chiefly because no other director has ever pulled it off or come close to.

Sitanda he did something very interesting in this movie where the environment @ the slavery scenes has a smokey effect. everything about that whole slavery scenes are new. very different. My favorite scene is the dance scene. lovely. I give it a B- . i would have loved to see a different selection of actors other than steph okereke and heer husband in the movie. Justis esiri was lovely in that movie btw.

Distance between here he touches on a subject hardly touched in Nollywood even with all the rape and child ABUSE MOVIES PRODUCED or directed. the movie ofcos has its own flaws. My major flaw with it is the sound. I felt seom of the sounds were either muffled and distorted or isnt supposse to be heard @ all. the ending was poor. very weak. so i give it a B-

White waters one major thing about this movie is the fact that it is different from Nollywood usuals. This is an athletic movie. whenever have you heard such a thing in nollywood? an athletic movie? its unbelieavble. it only proves that some directors really DO want to make a difference in Nollywood. i give him a B+ for standing out and directiing an amazing piece.


Cindy's note i am patiently waitin to see this movie.

these are his movies i have been able to watch. I know he has d one other works but i have yet to watch them or even come across them. example pf one of those movies is La Viva

Izu Ojukwu has only just begun.:653:
Hope you remember his classic work in Iva and Love boat. Izu no dey laugh at all. I love his directing loads upon loads

I don't know wetin dey worry Izu and co wey them no wan release Laviva! That movie has been set for release since mid last year. Not that he has been taking it to film festivals and want festive awards before its released..... they're just dragging feet on it, maybe, its cause I've heard him say thats so far his most passionate work.
 

sky_flies

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Izu is not the biggest director in Nollywood. Besides, Izu can only compare his works with those in the industry he's working in. Indian movie directors cannot jump and start to compare their works with American directors. They can only compare their works within their industry. Therefore, I fail to see what is wrong in comparing Izu's works with other directors in Nollywood to measure his ability to be the best -even if all the directors are garbage it is still a fair comparison.
Omo stop that jare. No dey yarn like this for public forum! Are you trying to say a director should compare his work with only those within his country or continent? I totally angryly disagree though, no punches or fights.

You know why a South African director was picked to shot X-men origins: Wolverine? Its because his work could compare and competite with international standards. The painful truth is that we Nigerians don't have such a director yet..... A few got potentials but they keep working with the wrong materials to project their debut. Please My Brother, I, Izu, Mildred, TK, Ram Gopal, you and more can compare our works with the Martin Scorese's, Paul Haggis, Steven Speilberg's..... hence we justify and explore film making like they did.

Nobody is restricted. A good work would cross the border, trust me!
 
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