White Waters...finally out!

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moviewizard

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Replacing Stephanie for Rita's character in White waters, I would also recast the male for a macho guy. Maybe Majid was a wrong choice but you know I didn't do the casting of White waters, perhaps if I were employed to be the casting director would have thought out two greater pair. For me, if Rita/Stephanie play Nola, OC wouldn't play Melvin! Simple!!

OC and Stephanie in the romantics (unless script includes their differences as a stumbling blocks in the relationship) is a fatal regrettable casting error, so was OC and Rita in White waters as thier age difference was streaming and made them have no connections.

Izu just let that slip by, I'm yet to discover why.

Jim what!!?? That guy is not a serious actor to me. Too stereotype that I can't imagine him fitting into so many roles. But casting upon physical resemblance Jim would justify a Jay Jay Okocha's project. He is also athletically fit but needs to get serious before I would believe his capable of becoming the character than letting the character become him.



Hope you remember his classic work in Iva and Love boat. Izu no dey laugh at all. I love his directing loads upon loads

I don't know wetin dey worry Izu and co wey them no wan release Laviva! That movie has been set for release since mid last year. Not that he has been taking it to film festivals and want festive awards before its released..... they're just dragging feet on it, maybe, its cause I've heard him say thats so far his most passionate work.


Laviva is produced by Peace Anyiam Osigwe, the CEO of AMAA AWARDS, Izu was only contracted as a director so he has no say in why the flick hasnt been release. Maybe you should ask Peace...s
 

kolinzo

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Do we have another Nollywood other than the one he is working in? or am i m issing something here?:confused:

Today, Izu Ojukwu is the #1 Nollywood director. Listen, action speaks loouder than words and his movies speaks volumes. You can not help but notice his outstanding works.

Who will tell the President prt 2 he was called to direct a part of the movie which is the action part. it wasnt until the prt 2 did the movie actually pick up. it was dragged obviously and honestly, the movie was dry until prt 2which just made it a little bearable. Now, the action bit isnt exactly great but he made an effor. i wud give him a C-

Across The Niger he really brought it home in that movie. i loved the whole war scenes except the ending( it has alot of flaws). But thats another discussion. i will give that a B chiefly because no other director has ever pulled it off or come close to.

Sitanda he did something very interesting in this movie where the environment @ the slavery scenes has a smokey effect. everything about that whole slavery scenes are new. very different. My favorite scene is the dance scene. lovely. I give it a B- . i would have loved to see a different selection of actors other than steph okereke and heer husband in the movie. Justis esiri was lovely in that movie btw.

Distance between here he touches on a subject hardly touched in Nollywood even with all the rape and child ABUSE MOVIES PRODUCED or directed. the movie ofcos has its own flaws. My major flaw with it is the sound. I felt seom of the sounds were either muffled and distorted or isnt supposse to be heard @ all. the ending was poor. very weak. so i give it a B-

White waters one major thing about this movie is the fact that it is different from Nollywood usuals. This is an athletic movie. whenever have you heard such a thing in nollywood? an athletic movie? its unbelieavble. it only proves that some directors really DO want to make a difference in Nollywood. i give him a B+ for standing out and directiing an amazing piece.


Cindy's note i am patiently waitin to see this movie.

these are his movies i have been able to watch. I know he has d one other works but i have yet to watch them or even come across them. example pf one of those movies is La Viva

Izu Ojukwu has only just begun.:653:
You are getting me wrong Wendytoks. My point is that Izu can only compare his work with those directors in Nollywood (which extends to other African countries btw). But, Sky flies thinks othewise. I am the #1 fan of Izu's work and I understand the harsh criticism he gets from guys on this forum (myself included).

I pretty much discredited DISTANCE BETWEEN because of its elementary mistakes. Editing wasn't on point -which even confused me when I was giving my two cents about the movie; sound was not on point; and the lighting was confusing (sometimes you'd think it's night time inside when it's sunny outside -I even asked in my mind if NEPA had taken light while he was shooting some of the indoor scenes). I didn't go hard on him but I gave it 6/10 just because it was Izu's movie. Much is expected of him because he's a topnotch Nollywood director.

ACCROSS THE NIGER: I was loving the movie until the war/fight scene ended. Then I was bored out of my life!!! Or maybe he didn't direct the rest of the movie?? This is the first time I'll talk about the movie on this forum. But Izu is my guy so I just go easy on him.

Izu's work speaks volume. He is by far the best action movie director in Nollywood -far better than Teco Benson. And I can't argue with him being one of the top directors in Nollywood. But #1? Well, that's highly debatable.

But believe me when I say Kolinzo is Izu #1 fan.
 

kolinzo

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Omo stop that jare. No dey yarn like this for public forum! Are you trying to say a director should compare his work with only those within his country or continent? I totally angryly disagree though, no punches or fights.

You know why a South African director was picked to shot X-men origins: Wolverine? Its because his work could compare and competite with international standards. The painful truth is that we Nigerians don't have such a director yet..... A few got potentials but they keep working with the wrong materials to project their debut. Please My Brother, I, Izu, Mildred, TK, Ram Gopal, you and more can compare our works with the Martin Scorese's, Paul Haggis, Steven Speilberg's..... hence we justify and explore film making like they did.

Nobody is restricted. A good work would cross the border, trust me!
The question I have for you is this: Is that director producing South African movies or international standard movies? Or are you saying because he's a South African that makes him a director of African movies?

Izu, Mildred, TK can compare their works with Steven Speilberg's, Martin Scorese's? How? One group is producing Nollywood movies and the other group is producing Hollywood movies. Where is the comparison here?

Has Izu produced International Standard movies to earn the comparison with Hollywood? When he comes out with international standard movies then we can do the comparison but as of today the only legit comparison is with other directors in Nollywood.
 

TheForce

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The question I have for you is this: Is that director producing South African movies or international standard movies? Or are you saying because he's a South African that makes him a director of African movies?

Izu, Mildred, TK can compare their works with Steven Speilberg's, Martin Scorese's? How? One group is producing Nollywood movies and the other group is producing Hollywood movies. Where is the comparison here?

Has Izu produced International Standard movies to earn the comparison with Hollywood? When he comes out with international standard movies then we can do the comparison but as of today the only legit comparison is with other directors in Nollywood.

Any director in Nollywood should be working with the hope of breaking boundaries. I don't think they should be conforming themselves to operating locally.
BTW, isn't the quality of the movie that makes the difference between the productions of any of the woods. If the production qualities are enhanced, it's easier to appeal to everyone thereby breaking the barriers.
 

takestyle

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The question I have for you is this: Is that director producing South African movies or international standard movies? Or are you saying because he's a South African that makes him a director of African movies?

Izu, Mildred, TK can compare their works with Steven Speilberg's, Martin Scorese's? How? One group is producing Nollywood movies and the other group is producing Hollywood movies. Where is the comparison here?

Has Izu produced International Standard movies to earn the comparison with Hollywood? When he comes out with international standard movies then we can do the comparison but as of today the only legit comparison is with other directors in Nollywood.
Which one is "international standard movies"?

I love how you keep saying "international standard movies" like it's some kind of official tax category!
 

sky_flies

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Laviva is produced by Peace Anyiam Osigwe, the CEO of AMAA AWARDS, Izu was only contracted as a director so he has no say in why the flick hasnt been release. Maybe you should ask Peace...s
Bros which one you dey now? Has Izu ever produced any movie?? He has always been a contracted director...... so wetin you dey yarn me so??? And a director could follow detail of a movie including contribution to its release date.

Its an actor that should run away after his part have been done, not the director!! As you see I added co when I mentioned Izu
 

sky_flies

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The question I have for you is this: Is that director producing South African movies or international standard movies? Or are you saying because he's a South African that makes him a director of African movies?

Izu, Mildred, TK can compare their works with Steven Speilberg's, Martin Scorese's? How? One group is producing Nollywood movies and the other group is producing Hollywood movies. Where is the comparison here?

Has Izu produced International Standard movies to earn the comparison with Hollywood? When he comes out with international standard movies then we can do the comparison but as of today the only legit comparison is with other directors in Nollywood.
I want to reply you so we can impact to ourselves but don't know what to say!!! Completely I'm short of words and its not for your great points..... its because I don't understand your post at all.

Which one is "international standard movies"?

I love how you keep saying "international standard movies" like it's some kind of official tax category!
Brouhaha!!! :teu26: :roll
 

vince

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I don't think that kolinzo meant that,sky.I think he meant that going by his body of work so far,he can be compared only with his other nollywood colleagues.But that does not mean to say that he(Izu) cannot go beyond such standard level.All Izu has to do is up his game even higher.For that he has to look for really world class screenplays from world class writers to work with.And that is the achilles heels of directors like Izu,they work with materials that are not up to par with their abilities.
Are you trying to say a director should compare his work with only those within his country or continent?
Nobody is restricted. A good work would cross the border, trust me!
 

moviewizard

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Bros which one you dey now? Has Izu ever produced any movie?? He has always been a contracted director...... so wetin you dey yarn me so??? And a director could follow detail of a movie including contribution to its release date.

Its an actor that should run away after his part have been done, not the director!! As you see I added co when I mentioned Izu


Okay o!
 

wendydoks

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Replacing Stephanie for Rita's character in White waters, I would also recast the male for a macho guy. Maybe Majid was a wrong choice but you know I didn't do the casting of White waters, perhaps if I were employed to be the casting director would have thought out two greater pair. For me, if Rita/Stephanie play Nola, OC wouldn't play Melvin! Simple!! OC to me, looks like a track athlete. so u honestly think majid is a better actor? he is definitely a good actor but compared to OC? i have seen majid's acting now, come on!

OC and Stephanie in the romantics (unless script includes their differences as a stumbling blocks in the relationship) is a fatal regrettable casting error, so was OC and Rita in White waters as thier age difference was streaming and made them have no connections. u have a prob with the age difference yet u wud cast steph that looks older than him? Rita doest even look older. You have never seen actors, esp. in hollywood that play love scene that the female in reality actually is older than the male interest in the movie? maybe that is why you are now a casting director. You say this becos u kno rita's age or age range. Another person wouldnt even recognize it at all.

Izu just let that slip by, I'm yet to discover why.

Jim what!!?? That guy is not a serious actor to me. Too stereotype that I can't imagine him fitting into so many roles. But casting upon physical resemblance Jim would justify a Jay Jay Okocha's project. He is also athletically fit but needs to get serious before I would believe his capable of becoming the character than letting the character become him.
lol...i will tell you that i am not a jim iyke fan. But thatt doesnt stop me from giving him props when he does well like his performance in "Love my way". i would rather search for a new face to play that role unless he proves a better actor in that particular role. once in awhile, a broken clock is right.


Hope you remember his classic work in Iva and Love boat. Izu no dey laugh at all. I love his directing loads upon loads
remind me, is IVA the same movie with the special effects of a dragon? i think its a dragon. i will check cos if it is, mehn lol...i dont like tat movie one bit! i dont think i have seen love boat and i hope its not the one with rita dominic and francis duru:laugh:

I don't know wetin dey worry Izu and co wey them no wan release Laviva! That movie has been set for release since mid last year. Not that he has been taking it to film festivals and want festive awards before its released..... they're just dragging feet on it, maybe, its cause I've heard him say thats so far his most passionate work.
i thought the movie has been released. i thought wrong. well then, i am patiently waiting....while we are on the subject of OC Ukeje, do you know who is directing "comrade"?
 

wendydoks

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You are getting me wrong Wendytoks. My point is that Izu can only compare his work with those directors in Nollywood (which extends to other African countries btw). But, Sky flies thinks othewise. I am the #1 fan of Izu's work and I understand the harsh criticism he gets from guys on this forum (myself included).

I pretty much discredited DISTANCE BETWEEN because of its elementary mistakes. Editing wasn't on point -which even confused me when I was giving my two cents about the movie; sound was not on point; and the lighting was confusing (sometimes you'd think it's night time inside when it's sunny outside -I even asked in my mind if NEPA had taken light while he was shooting some of the indoor scenes). I didn't go hard on him but I gave it 6/10 just because it was Izu's movie. Much is expected of him because he's a topnotch Nollywood director.

ACCROSS THE NIGER: I was loving the movie until the war/fight scene ended. Then I was bored out of my life!!! Or maybe he didn't direct the rest of the movie?? This is the first time I'll talk about the movie on this forum. But Izu is my guy so I just go easy on him.

Izu's work speaks volume. He is by far the best action movie director in Nollywood -far better than Teco Benson. And I can't argue with him being one of the top directors in Nollywood. But #1? Well, that's highly debatable.

But believe me when I say Kolinzo is Izu #1 fan.
yes u r right. the post war was boring. i believe he directed it alone or alongside kingsley ogoro because its from his production. however, even @ that, the last war scene was awful. i was disappointed. also, the documentaries werent clear enough sound wise. You could hardly hear what is being said in the radio braodcast. but all in all, i still love the movie. something completely different from the norm yet again!
 

takestyle

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yes u r right. the post war was boring. i believe he directed it alone or alongside kingsley ogoro because its from his production. however, even @ that, the last war scene was awful. i was disappointed. also, the documentaries werent clear enough sound wise. You could hardly hear what is being said in the radio braodcast. but all in all, i still love the movie. something completely different from the norm yet again!
Oh really? So the movie wasn't perfect?

Why are you hating now?
 

takestyle

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on Across the NIger? can u post the link please? i am new here...

and please dont act like u did not see my reply to your post!
Yes, I saw your reply. I just elected not to respond to it because I think it's pretty irrelevant to this particular discussion.

I evaluated White Waters as *an individual movie*... I didn't cast judgment upon Izu Ojukwu's entire body of work, and I don't see why I should have to do so in order to justify my opinion to you or prove that I am not a "hater."

I didn't like White Waters. I thought it was limp and bloodless on a story level and a major disappointment on a technical level. And I gave reasons supporting this opinion. You can take that or leave it.
 

sky_flies

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@ Wendy, I completely agree on OC being more of a track athletic than Majid. I have always said he was suitable for White Waters but Rita wasn't..... that her laps, biggy yansh, arms.... no gre am :roll. Its same as casting Omosexy for the role, to me. Can you remember Sand in my shoes where Patrick Doyle was forcing Omosexy to be his athlete? Wasn't it laughable?? So it is for Rita playing Nola, but there is difference, which is White Waters is a big movie by Nollywood standard. I would cast that Omosexy's niece in Sand in my shoes (Linda the GUS 3 girl) along side OC for White Waters. That is right casting.

I never said I would cast Stephanie and OC together with a story of White Waters nature, and never ever would. If I'm to pair the Rita/Stephanie with OC.... The story for Rita would state the age differences (something maybe about an aging frustrated lady in singlehood who finds physical attraction in a younger male) and that for Stephanie would state a that Stephanie's character is a woman like maybe Kate Henshaw's character in Stronger than pain.

Stephanie doesn't look too older than OC AND SHE REALLY ISN'T. OC is about 26-27 while Stephanie is of the maximum 29. Rita is 34... gosh!! How do you expect that to work? Where will the chemistry come from?? I am not saying its bad to cast an older actress with a younger actor but don't let it be an alarming factor if the story doesn't include. There was a movie where Eucharia was in hot romance with Jim, it was included in the story that she was older. Also the make-up artist did nothing. I remember a Hollywood movie where Ryan Gosling was made way younger than he was and I believed, okay? Did you not see Rita cheeks?? That alone is 3 years older than OC but she played love interest with him in White water plot.

As for Jimmy dat Hyke despite I uttered he was stereotype he is a good actor. I would still add "unserious" cause he certainly enjoys doing same thing over and over and over again. Many actors are stereotype in Nollywood.... Desmond is, Joke Sylvia reek of it, Sam Dede is..... Gene, Omosexy, Ramsey, Rita.... are but can transform.... so far Ebere Okaro, Francis Duru, RMD, Stephanie and very few are not to me.

Yea, thats Iva[/] it had Francis Duru, Larry Koldsweat, Omosexy, Olu Jacobs and co. While Love boat had Gene, Jumbo, Ramsey.....

Majid is a better actor than OC as it stands now. One work doesn't qualify you as excellent. Majid is variable talent. Mehn! Agony of christ, Crime to christ and Pretty Queen were close to the T performances.

I don't know who is directing Comrade but I'm almost sure Izu is not the one. I'd get back to you when I find out anything about the movie, right now I know zero.
 

TheForce

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your statement was also uncalled for and u know it. You can keep your present!
How is God's name was my statement uncalled for? That Izu and other few directors shouldn't be comparing their works to those that are sub par. Come, are you a Nollywood director? Why do you have to take that personally?

This was my post below, to which you replied, can you lease point me to where I was addressing you?

Something went wrong at the honeymoon hotel? Lol

Haba Angela, you of all people, being a production person should see the truth in what Takestyle had enumerated in regards to white water. He'd been spot on. You would probably had shared the same view if those flaws were pointed out by somebody else aside TS.
White water was an ok movie, but it wasn't all that, as some would want to make it. I still respect Izu Ojukwu, but it seems that the existence of loads of inefficient directors in Nollywood is forcing the few good ones to see their works as excellent. Because they are comparing their works with movies that should be trashed in the first place.
 
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