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Discussion in 'MOVIES IN AFRICAN LANGUAGES' started by vince, Feb 6, 2004.

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  1. vince

    vince Well-Known Member

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    yoruba movies stay away from stories with native doctors in them if only for a little while,eh?
    Looking for a yoruba movie without characters going to "baba" for one thing or the other,is like looking for a needle in the haystack for real!
    Man taya o!:rolleyes:
     
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    Gen Sani Abacha SUPREME DICTATOR

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    Vince, do you want to incur the wrath of awa ancestors ?
    Take time o, bifor I put "lukudi" on yu.

    O buse.
     
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    Abeg,the best yoruba movies are the ones avoiding a trip to the babalawo.
    Once native doctor enters the plot,the story is as dead as a dodo.:rolleyes:
     
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    As a scriptwriter,you put obstacles in the path of your characters for them to overcome.
    These obstacles cause conflicts which in turn cause drama and then you have a story to tell.
    Now,how captivating your story is will depend on the nature,gravity,uniqueness of those obstacles.
    And that is not where it all ends,the way your characters go about trying to overcome these obstacles also have a huge impact on the captivating qualities of your story.
    The more your character is involved in removing these obstacles through intellectual means and brainwork,the more interesting your story will get.
    But when problems encountered by the characters in a script are not surmounted by their intelligence and wits,but by some invisible spirit that the audience can't see,then there is a big problem.
    No wonder a lot of people who watches naija movies say that they are dumb.
    What they are trying to say is the following:
    1)The obstacles are not challenging enough.
    2)The way the characters go about solving these obstacles is in no way cerebral,not in the least.
    Put all this together and you have dumb movies.This is why i say that put a visit to a native doctor in the central point of the plot of a script,and the story is dead.
     
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    Because it's in our culture. Maybe you don't go to babas for help but some people do. Not everybody believes in God you know.
    Yeah the babalawo craps seems redundant but in real life, you will be surprised to know how many people run to babalawos and co for help.
    The existence of native doctors is real.
     
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    @Poison:I totally agree with you. While I personally may not believe in babalawos nor practise indigenous yoruba religion(s), the fact still remains that the belief in the special abilities and influence of babalawos [or ifa priests] to act as intermediaries between mortals and the 'gods', or their [supposed] supernatual abilities, is deep-seated in the psyche of a substantial portion of the Yoruba people -- whether consciously or subconsciously, dating back to antiquity. Indeed, in yoruba metaphysics, his (babalawo's) role isn't any different than that of a christian [Catholic] Priest or [Protestant] Prophet/Pastor. Besides, a lot of naija movies of the english genre also do similarly by subtly propagating 'the Gospel' through scenes involving 'prophet' or 'pastors' praying and preaching about 'the love of God', 'faith in Christ', 'salvation' and seeing 'visions' or interpreting dreams, even/especially when such movies aren't classified as religion-themed. And like Poison rightly pointed out, a lot of yorubas, including some adherrents of foreign religions such as Islam and Christianity, still visit these babalawos today. In short, unless we want to be disingenuous, I don't think one can truthfully deny babalawos' place in yoruba culture, at large.
     
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    Re: Re: Why Can't.....

    Good point.
     
  8. vince

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    You clearly missed the point here.The existence of native doctors is not what is in question here,but the overuse of them in yoruba/naija storylines.
    The importance of these people in our daily lives in the mordern,contemporary nigerian society is being exergerated.
    These people are more peripherial than central to us when it comes to solving problems.
    Why?'cos most of the problems,challenges and obstacles we all encounter in life are physical,rather than metaphysical or spiritual,if you will,so we hardly need their help.
    It is only in very rare cases that we do need to go and seek their assistance.
    But the movies seem to portray a totally different thing.
    That whenever we have any kind of problem or obstacles(even physical),we run to babalawos,and this is falsehood.
    There are obstacles that we do need and indeed overcome by the use of our wits and intelligence.
    As a matter of fact,most obstacles we encounter in life are solved by us this way,and our stories need to highlight this a lot more.
    I mean,we are not braindead,are we?
    I would like to see more of our onscreen heroes and heroines overcoming obstacles by sheer use of their wits and intelligence(which makes things more exciting,by the way)rather than through some spiritual forces or divine interventinon,while they sit around and tweedle their thumbs(which makes our stories quite boring and sterile).
    Actions from the characters are what we need to excite us.Using brainwork and intelligence to overcome difficulties makes watching movies a whole lot more interesting.
    That is why western movies are always so engrossing and captivating to watch.
    Unless,ofcourse you peeps want to say that we don't need to think to solve our problems.
    Something that i will totally reject.
     
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    Actually what they are doing is catering for their larger audience . Majority of them still be ijinle people. The adiguns, aribikofa and co. And they want to see the babalawo thing a lot. Na my experience be that o.
     
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    Yes,but dem for shift direction small and do other things now.
    And the worst of all is,they always portray these babalawos in bad light.
    If a character wants to kill,maim,destroy his/her fellow human being,that is when they remember native doctors.Is that good publicity?
    A woman has no ovules,commonsense should tell such a woman that bearing a child is out of her reach and adopting is always an option,but the writers will make her go to the babas to get a child by force from some sinister and evil source,make her do some wierd sacrifices,only for the whole thing to end in disaster later in life(how many times have we seen such plots).
    The whole thing is just plain boring.
    No wonder our stories are so predictable:o
     
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    @vince: Very important points you have made. Very important contribution.
     
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    i gats to say, I agree with u
     
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