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Why don't Yoruba actors learn to speak Igbo?

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Supermom

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I don't know if you've followed the entire discussion. I'm not just talking about the comments he's made in the past few days... Go back to the beginning of this thread (which started over two years ago) and see some of the things vince has said. Go look at other posts he has made on the subject.

I'm not even upset about any of it. And like I said, I'm not even asking as an Igbo person... I really don't care about it on that level. I just want to know why he's soooooooo obsessed with this.

Maybe his psychological motivations are none of my business. But I'm just curious.

(By the way, you had a previous screen name, didn't you? I was away from the forum for a while and when I came back I saw Supermom for the first time, but I get the sense that you're not exactly "new" here. When do you think I was condescending to you, my dear?)

Previous Screen name? Wahala i don suffer...TS you dey find my toro :devil! I joined April this year, didnt even know this site existed..I am too open and mature to play such games, that i assure you.

On the condescending issue, i believe it was the Trump/Obama thread and thats why the first time you tried to correct me on the Barbara Soky/Inside out year, my antennas were up lol and i was short in my response.:1087:
I do believe i misunderstood you then or maybe i am just a sucker for peace...grinning:
Anyway thats why i spoke up here..
 

takestyle

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On the condescending issue, i believe it was the Trump/Obama thread and thats why the first time you tried to correct me on the Barbara Soky/Inside out year, my antennas were up lol and i was short in my response.:1087:
Hmmm... I don't remember that. I don't even recall commenting in that post at all... I generally avoid political topics on this forum. But maybe I did say something... I'll have to check.
 

takestyle

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Hmm, Conservative in our midst! Raise the alarm!
Haha! Actually my reason for not talking politics here is because this board is a bit slow-reacting to most political (and really, any non-Nollywood/Naija topics) so that by the time they appear here, I've already discussed them to exhaustion on some other forum.

(I guess I should take that as a cue to start introducing some of those topics here myself so that we can be more up-to-the-minute...)

That being said, I do lean slightly to the right these days... :spin2:
 

takestyle

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By the way, Supermom.. I see that I did post in the Obama/Trump thread to correct you on the translation of unam ikot.

I did it with a smile, though!
 

vince

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Don't mind the guy. I know his type. Always trying to play the victim card to win what he thinks is a debate. Is the thread starting post itself not derogatory, asking the yoruba actors to learn igbo just to get into english speaking nollywood homevideos? If that is not derogatory and insulting, in itself, then i don't know what is.
Haba TS, I really don't think he sounded derogatory! You know sometimes when we are reading things, we can get the wrong vibes... We don't see the person and can't decipher their emotions.. I know I am guilty! I have actually felt you were condescending to me on a few occasions and made me over react ...to an otherwise simple statement... Please let's not make anything about igbos or yorubas or Hausa ...that will be wrong ...We have come this far...
 

takestyle

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Don't mind the guy. I know his type. Always trying to play the victim card to win what he thinks is a debate. Is the thread starting post itself not derogatory, asking the yoruba actors to learn igbo just to get into english speaking nollywood homevideos? If that is not derogatory and insulting, in itself, then i don't know what is.
Who is playing the victim? I didn't insert myself into the argument at all... Apart from the fact that you already know I am Igbo, there's nothing about me implied in the question.

By the way: what is derogatory and insulting about a Yoruba person learning Igbo?

*strokes chin*
 

Supermom

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Who is playing the victim? I didn't insert myself into the argument at all... Apart from the fact that you already know I am Igbo, there's nothing about me implied in the question.

By the way: what is derogatory and insulting about a Yoruba person learning Igbo?

*strokes chin*
Oh you are Igbo?? heck..
 

vince

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You are playing the victim with your false assumtions of my derogatory attitude towards the igbo. You brought that up. Only people who love playing the victim card come up with such false accusations at the drop of a hat.
Who is playing the victim? I didn't insert myself into the argument at all... Apart from the fact that you already know I am Igbo, there's nothing about me implied in the question.
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Nothing is derogatory and insulting about it, in principle. Anybody can learn whatever languages they wish if they are so inclined. But why it is so in this case is quite clear and you should just quit pretending as if you can't see it. Telling yoruba actors to learn igbo in order to get roles in english speaking home videos just because the igbos overwhelmingly controls that sector is derogatory and insulting.
If we were to flip the script and exchange roles with the yorubas demanding that the igbos learn yoruba before getting roles in english speaking nollywood homvies just because they control the english sector of nollywood, and i open a thread like this on here, you would be on here, up in arms, crying out in outrage and all about the arrogance of vince and the yorubas in general.
By the way: what is derogatory and insulting about a Yoruba person learning Igbo?

*strokes chin*
 

takestyle

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You are playing the victim with your false assumtions of my derogatory attitude towards the igbo. You brought that up. Only people who love playing the victim card come up with such false accusations at the drop of a hat.
I'm not playing any victim. I'm asking you questions about statements you actually made.

Did I fabricate any of the statements? You said them, shey? If you like, I'll provide links to them so that there is no doubt.

Now I am asking why you said them.

vince said:
If we were to flip the script and exchange roles with the yorubas demanding that the igbos learn yoruba before getting roles in english speaking nollywood homvies just because they control the english sector of nollywood, and i open a thread like this on here, you would be on here, up in arms, crying out in outrage and all about the arrogance of vince and the yorubas in general.
Actually, no.

I'm very different from you, vince.... For one thing, I really don't engage in tribal-based thinking, and if you made a post about that I would be neither outraged nor up in arms.

I don't think it would register much for me because it's old news. Igbos living in Lagos and working with Yorubas already learn Yoruba in order to get ahead in Yoruba-dominated realms, so there is nothing new there. I wonder why it is such an insult for Yorubas to learn Igbo, though.

Look at it this way: I generally am not all that interested in sports. However, my boss loves football and I've noticed that he tends to favor my coworkers who spend time talking about football with him because they have more of a connection to him... They "speak his language," so to speak.

As a result, though I don't have a natural interest in football, I started watching it so that I'd have something to talk to the boss about. I do that because I want to get ahead.

It's not an insult to me, and it's not compulsory. If I don't want to watch the football, I don't have to. But I have only myself to blame when I'm crying about others being promoted over me.
 

Supermom

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I tire..the one i asked him, he didnt respond..He"s focused on this.....Well i am out of here...I don try..If ina like, start another biafra/ nigerian war...
 

takestyle

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I tire..the one i asked him, he didnt respond..He"s focused on this.....Well i am out of here...I don try..If ina like, start another biafra/ nigerian war...
What did you ask me? The thing about condescension with a smile?

Didn't realize you were actually expecting a response there...
 
...But just in general, I have always wondered about the fact that I have never met a Yoruba or Hausa person that speaks Igbo. But have met tons of Igbo people that speak Yoruba and some that speak Hausa. To narrow it down some more, I have never met a Yoruba person who could say my name right, but I never have any difficulty saying their names...Why is that?
 

Sola

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...but I never have any difficulty saying their names...Why is that?
How do you know you're saying it right? And some Yoruba names are easier than others...
I know Yorubas who speak Igbo well. I also know hausas who have picked up Yoruba and Igbo on their travels. What you see boils down to the circles within which you move, how expanded it is. I have family married to Igbos and Hausas.
 
How do you know you're saying it right? And some Yoruba names are easier than others...
The owners of the name say I am saying it right...unless they are lying. It's akin to the way Oyibo people can never really say your names right, but then you can say theirs. Even if a Yoruba name is difficult, if you say it to me a couple times I'll get it.
 

tunmi

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I would love to speak Igbo or even Hausa. I only know few words, emphasis on few, and they aren't the nice words either. My Igbo best friend really does not teach me, and I have asked her. So, we converse in Pidgin instead.

The long and short of this is, what are some Igbo movies, subtitled in English that I could peruse. At least until I find a university here that offers Igbo as a course. I know some who do Yoruba, but I am not sure about Igbo or Hausa. Shikena!
 
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