Yoruba Actors and English Movies

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vince

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Who is whining?Mr honourable,if you read my post properly,you would have seen that i did not say they should leave the business completely,but rather to leave the creative dept. in which they do not belong.
But if they refuse to do that,the only people who will whine are either the EMG audience themselves because of the crap they will continue to endure,or the marketers themselves who will keep on whining because of ever dwindling sales.It is their call.I am not an audience of the kind of homvies they produce,so it is no skin off my nose.
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You can whine about it from here to Jericho!! Ain't gonna change NADA!!
THOSE IGBO MARKETERS ARE HERE TO STAY!!!
No,not stop making money,but they should quit pretending to be movie producers and messing things up in the creative department.Funding and marketing movies won't stop them from making money.But they screwing around in the creative dept. where they don't belong will continue to infect it with their tribalistic mindset and stop good quality movies being made,and it always has.You want proof?
Honourable said:
They should stop making their money and doing what they love doing because you said so!!
Let's go there!!!
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NTB

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Let these igbo marketers butt out of the creative sector of EMG and concentrate on what they are supposed to know about,which is funding and marketing - even that they have no clue about - and leave that sector to real producers to handle.
Vince, did you just say that the EMG marketers have no clue about funding and marketing?
 

vince

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Well,judging by the report sheets so far,would you say that they know what they are doing?Judging by the financial state of nollywood,i would say,no,they do not know even that.Nollywood is only a shadow of what it should have become. If only these marketers could have been more competent in these two areas.
One could argue that they spent so much time messing about in the creative dept. where they do not belong, that they lost complete focus on their financial and marketing duties.Everybody should stick to the areas they are most familiar with.IMO.
Vince, did you just say that the EMG marketers have no clue about funding and marketing?
 

takestyle

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Well,judging by the report sheets so far,would you say that they know what they are doing?Judging by the financial state of nollywood,i would say,no,they do not know even that.Nollywood is only a shadow of what it should have become. If only these marketers could have been more competent in these two areas.
One could argue that they spent so much time messing about in the creative dept. where they do not belong, that they lost complete focus on their financial and marketing duties.Everybody should stick to the areas they are most familiar with.IMO.
The problem I have always had with pronouncements like this is that they seem to show little understanding of some of the realities of the market.

I have NEVER been convinced by the argument that Nollwood's dwindling fortunes are the direct result of tribalism. I mean, I have heard some non-Igbo people complain about the Igbo domination of EMG in the real world, but that doesn't really stop them from watching them. It is only on this board that I have seen anybody make THAT much of a big deal about it.

And frankly, even if ALL the Yoruba people (who seem to constitute the majority of the aggrieved) were to stop watching EMG movies, I don't know if that would be enough to put Nollywood in the doldrums it's in now.

The truth is that the audience for Nollywood is actually GROWING. Particularly outside of Nigeria. MORE people are watching EMG movies... not less.

The problem is that the rapid expansion of the market--coupled with an absence of strongly enforced copyright/intellectual property laws--leads to an increase in piracy, which has always been around but was easier to control or contain when the market was smaller.

The other issue I think, regrettably, is Africa Magic.

I hate to say it because I actually love that channel, but I have to agree with those who have pointed fingers at DSTV siphoning off the audience for EMG movies in Nigeria and other African countries.

I think the idea of a Nollywood-centric cable channel is brilliant, but the way the deal has been structured, they are giving Africa Magic too much content too fast. Why would I pay to buy an EMG movie when I know that if I wait 10 minutes it will eventually show up on my TV?

Africa Magic hardly shows YMG material, and that's why it remains less affected... but if YMG producers start selling their movies to Africa Magic at the same rate, you'll see the same thing happen over there, too.*

Anyway, my point is that if you look at economic indicators, saying "EMG movies are not selling because their tribalism is coming back to bite them in the ass" is really naive and hardly built on a strong foundation.


*London peeps--what's the Nollywood cable channel you guys have over there? Do they show YMG stuff? If so, how much?
 

Irinajoeda

OPOMULERO MOJALEKAN
It's all about complex and the feeling of unworthiness. The Igbo people has never really felt part of Nigeria and have carried a chip on their shoulders since inception.

This is their way to prove that they can be as good as the Yorubas and once they were able to monopolise the home video business, they decided to make it theirs and keep others out simply because they are afraid.

It's an underlying BIAFRA in them.

Simply put, IGBO people are terrified of Yorubas and would clinch to anything they can so much as call their own in Nigeria.
 

takestyle

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It's all about complex and the feeling of unworthiness. The Igbo people has never really felt part of Nigeria and have carried a chip on their shoulders since inception.

This is their way to prove that they can be as good as the Yorubas and once they were able to monopolise the home video business, they decided to make it theirs and keep others out simply because they are afraid.

It's an underlying BIAFRA in them.

Simply put, IGBO people are terrified of Yorubas and would clinch to anything they can so much as call their own in Nigeria.
Irinajoeda... PLEASE shut up.

I mean, I don't care much that you are a committed tribalist (and now that I know you are Peaches, I remember some posts you made in the past calling for Igbo genocide) but what bothers me is when people try to pass their prejudices off as actual knowledge of history.

That's what the Nazis did.
 

NTB

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It's all about complex and the feeling of unworthiness. The Igbo people has never really felt part of Nigeria and have carried a chip on their shoulders since inception.

This is their way to prove that they can be as good as the Yorubas and once they were able to monopolise the home video business, they decided to make it theirs and keep others out simply because they are afraid.

It's an underlying BIAFRA in them.

Simply put, IGBO people are terrified of Yorubas and would clinch to anything they can so much as call their own in Nigeria.
Girl, whatever you are drinking has given you more than double vision. Now slow your azz down with all that razz. If Nigeria is split today I wonder which tribe will survive? If all Igbo traders left Lagos, Jos, Kaduna and a host of others today I wonder what will be the state of those places.
 

NTB

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Well,judging by the report sheets so far,would you say that they know what they are doing?Judging by the financial state of nollywood,i would say,no,they do not know even that.Nollywood is only a shadow of what it should have become. If only these marketers could have been more competent in these two areas.
One could argue that they spent so much time messing about in the creative dept. where they do not belong, that they lost complete focus on their financial and marketing duties.Everybody should stick to the areas they are most familiar with.IMO.
If they didn't fund am na who go fund am - the government or the actors guild :confused:

No be there personal money de they use fund and market these movies. How much did the Federal Government allocate for this sector.
 

luciano

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...my people,what shall we do if a jamaican attack the igbo stock on this site as it happened elsewhere?...there,all nigerians in unity went for the jugular of the jammo!..but what will happen here?...will we reply in unity or in disunity as we seem to be more interested in?...again,can't we just get along?...NO ONE CAN WIN THIS DEBATE...AND SINCE NO ONE SEEM TO BE LEARNING FROM THE OTHER,WE ARE ALL GOING TO BE LOSERS!...we all have tribalistic tendencies but lets focus more on things that unite us...are we too proud to back down?...
 

Honourable

Mr. Naijarules!
Irinajoeda, what statistics did you come up with to come up with this bizzare conclusion??

Irina, feel free to give us your raw undiluted opinion about this Biafra in us!

Educate us, we want to know more nne!

Educate us about this "complex" in us. The floor is all yours nne!! Goforitt!!
It's all about complex and the feeling of unworthiness. The Igbo people has never really felt part of Nigeria and have carried a chip on their shoulders since inception.

This is their way to prove that they can be as good as the Yorubas and once they were able to monopolise the home video business, they decided to make it theirs and keep others out simply because they are afraid.

It's an underlying BIAFRA in them.

Simply put, IGBO people are terrified of Yorubas and would clinch to anything they can so much as call their own in Nigeria.
 

luciano

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It looks like this thread has had its run...Again...
Never ends well...
...well,the run has continued and will not end well as you have remarked...but is the discussion healthy?...right now i am just wondering how some of my future posts will not be affected by what i am reading...
 
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