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Discussion in 'MOVIES IN AFRICAN LANGUAGES' started by vince, Aug 24, 2005.
yo multi i disagree patapata
say it gurl
yoruba is so deep
anti abike how una dey?
Defend your stance!
English is like a virus,it needs to infect other more sophisticated languages to survive,and it does it very well,better than any other language.Think about uncountable words from french,greek,latin and other ancient lingos.That is the secret of it's success,not to talk of a lot of help from hollywood,US music,and IT world.
If we're basing it's superiority on it's ability to adapt to any era,it's flexibility,then it is unbeatable.
Yoruba needs to adapt,it needs to be more flexible,and most of all we yorubas need to support it and stop running away from it,only to come in front of our compurras and proclaim fake undying love for it,while it slowly dies off.
Wise saying! Disputants, more often than not, hardly think of premises before airing their views, so when light starts beaming and depth summons....enuff said!
Kwik kweshion Multioption, is this how you talk in real life? or in your everyday life? You know you dont have to always sound like u're writing a thesis before u make sense :eyes
Vince please STOP IT................jeez. You just like making sweeping statements abi?
1. adapt to any era?????? Yoruba has been around LONG before modern english was developed so what are you really talking about? I can personally trace my family heritage to the 1500s and I KNOW they were speaking Yoruba. The Ijebus (which is a dialect of Yoruba) were speaking their language in NIGERIA far back into the 1100s. Don't speak about a language that is not flexible, or adaptable to any era. What has it been doing since???? We have words for radio, tv, computer, pen, grinder, car - all things i KNOW werent being used in 1000s. Even Yorubanglish as spoken in Lagos is evidence of the continual evolution of this language. Go to Benin, Brazil, Haiti, heck even Louisiana and learn about the adaptability and flexibility of the Yoruba language
2. perhaps YOU and many others like YOU are running away from it. I know that for most of the little villages in Ogun, Osun, Ekiti, Ondo, Oyo et al still speak Yoruba proudly and fluently. Have you travelled vastly in Oyo? Yoruba thrives my brother. It is NOT dying.
bluestocking, sometimes people talk like that when they are trying to disguise the fact that they are really not making any sense.
Can't you ignore?
or when what they say is a recondite!
point proven. a recondite what?
Gurl, u're soooo right!!
Now you can search Google in this dying language
I thought I would post this link to support the assertions of our General himself :D : http://www.google.com/intl/yo/. Now if an international technology company like Google considers it important enough to translate their home page, trademark information etc. fully into Yoruba, I'd guess that it suggests great things for the survival and extension of the language (and other African first languages) as a medium of communication and instruction. (To be fair, Google is also available in Latin). There have been United Nations studies done on the superiority--since we're using that word--of mother-tongue education, and I believe it was an OAU/Ife study that demonstrated the effectiveness of mother-tongue education for technical subjects and even second-language learning (i.e. French, English).
My dearest GSA luxlove:
You have proven yourself to be very knowledgeable in this very entertaining discourse. You are trying to rescue Multi by saying the the language is not inferior, just underdeveloped. And that we need to start using it as a language of instruction. Well, it all sounds nice, dandy and patriotic on paper, but I have been around academics for a looooong time, going to be one meself, and I need to tell you that your proposition is not feasible. Can you imagine going to the University of Ibadan and learning your physics in yoruba? How do you even begin to transfer this information to University of Maiduguri, or even to Nsukka? Is it even possible?
Do you know that most universities in Europe that have any kind of international student body have started to mandate that the language of instruction be english? Because they have started to realise that 1) their students suffer in the world economic order if they cannot speak english, and 2) they also want the money from international students who panic at having to learn another language.
If we tried to enforce instruction even at the primary school level in local languages, I believe we would set our educational system back another 100 years, if it was possible to make it any more backward than it already is. So what do you suggest, that each state university teach in the dominant language of their area : Igbo in Igboland, Hausa in the north, efik in calabar? Would that not lead to total chaos?
People should learn to read and write in their local languages. They should be able to speak it fluently. But going to pilot school in yoruba? Physics in yoruba? mathematics in yoruba? can you even begin to fathom that? We can't even teach the darned subjects in english proficiently! Ain't practical. We have to accept the fact that our region is not important enough to make our languages important in the worldwide scheme of things. Its not about inferiority or not of the languages. Its just an economic reality. So we speak the languages that can get us ahead in the world pending the time when our regions gain any kind of economic importance! (well, that's why we are praying abi?)
My dearest funmo babes luxlove: while I concede that you do have some points, I still insist on the development of our own langauges. I would take a bi-lingual approach with both mother tongue and English being Compulsory. I would stipulate(just like the Egypt under President Nasser) that all university graduates should produce mother tongue copies of their Projects(whether undergrad or postgrad) in every/any field of endeavour. I will not countenance any moves to neglect/hinder the development of our languages. Indeed, if I were at the head of a Military Government, I would promulgate a decree making it a treasonable felony to rubbish any of our nlanguages, any attempt to hinder/hamper our language development would result in a fine or imprisonment with 're-education' for the offender. Any Nigerian born abroad who can't speak Nigerian language, would not be given Nigerian citizenship, the same would apply to non-Nigerian spouses of Nigerians! I know it's pretty drastic, but that's the way I've see these things, and won't be changing any time soon. That's why I wouldn't settle down with a woman who can't speak my language either. :biggrinsa
Out of curiousity if you don't mind my asking, what field of study are you in as an academic ?
Keep kool darling, luving ya still.
Hey Alaaworan! Longest time! Missed you and glad to see you back.
By the way, why did you drop "Alaaworan"? Did you forget your password? :D Anyways, glad to have you back in the fold.
Oga, you go china? Na world player you be? Make una dey show dat ya face from time to time o. As for me, the work wey I dey face this few days, na the grace of GOD o, na so I tok say make I remove hand for internet small small, before yawa come gas!!
By d way, how you come take know that dat man na Alaaworan abi wetin you call am? You be winsh?
My favourite dictator,
That would be telling wouldn't it? Part of the reason you adore me so much is because I am alluring and mysterious, abi? Why spoil a wonderful thing with too much information? Luvving ya toooooo! luxlove: